The guest so nice, we had to have him on twice. Listeners will remember a red-hot interview Chad & Cheese did in 2020 with IKEA’s Rick Carsley, and luckily for everyone, he’s back on the podcast. Now with Freedom Mortgage, Rick heads up TA and, as usual, he doesn’t pull any punches on recruiting tech he likes and doesn’t like. It’s a must-listen for anyone shopping around for the latest industry tools.

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