Aside from being a summary of one of our podcasts, it’s also a #1 Amazon Best Seller and one of nine books Entrepreneur Magazine says you have to read this year. Authors Tracey Lovejoy and Shannon Lucas join the boys to talk about catalysts, and what they mean to an organization, and how they can thrive. Just another podcast where someone smarter than the hosts come and chat.

Enjoy this Sovren powered podcast. Sovren, software so human you’ll want to take it to dinner.